L’Internationale
José Luis Espejo
In this podcast we talk to curator and researcher José Luis Espejo about the unusual progression of his academic immersion, but above all we focus on the key role played by the blubber of toothed cetaceans at different points in recent human history. A descent into the hidden layers of early modernity that connects biology, chemistry, economics, military engineering, and lighting technology. We talk about sperm whales and dolphins, about boats, lamps, and trade treaties, and about the echoes of this history, which resonate in the midst of the current climate crisis. But mostly we talk about blubber, about our relationship with ecosystems, and about the unsustainable exploitation of marine, fossil, and human resources.
Ingrid Guardiola
Ingrid Guardiola is an essayist, filmmaker and arts manager whose career has been marked by the unwavering desire to question the structures that condition the way we see, feel and live: from visual culture to the production dynamics of arts institutions, by way of the changing ways in which we live and work. Her latest essay, La servidumbre de los protocolos (The Servitude of Protocols), looks at the underlying paradigms that shape contemporary life, unpacking the devices that govern our gestures, our time, and our interactions, under the banner of efficiency, surveillance and saturation. In this podcast, we talk to Ingrid about mutualism, symbols, and rituals, about the limits of cultural institutionalism, and about the cracks that make room for resistance. And we consider the possibility of thinking and feeling outside the boundaries imposed by the techno-bureaucratic apparatus.