• 00:01 Letting go of the ideas of paradise and apocalypse
  • 05:52 Micropolitics / Macropolitics
  • 12:40 Subjectivity-and-world-factory
  • 16:47 Voicing and speaking from another place
  • 22:24 Dealing with reactivity
  • 24:10 The commons is in all bodies
  • 28:22 The idea of public and private
  • 32:57 Inspiring and conspiring in the neoliberal regime
  • 36:30 The Spheres of Insurrection
  • 45:36 Patriarchal racial colonial capitalist management
  • 51:30 Speaking with words, speaking in images
  • 55:59 The image of spiders
  • 64:00 The effects of the ecosystem on your body
  • 67:16 How concepts are born
  • 69:37 The Guarani language, bearer of memories
  • 77:05 The pollination process
  • 84:28 The Independent Studies Program and Conceptualismos del Sur
26/07/2023 93' 3''
Araña. Foto: Xavier Demarets

Suely Rolnik is a psychoanalyst, writer and academic. She is the author of books such as Spheres of Insurrection and Molecular Revolution in Brazil, co-written with Félix Guattari, with whom she collaborated profusely from her years of exile in France. Her research weaves together different disciplinary frameworks, creating  nodes that connect psychoanalytic theory, political activism, and artistic practice, and strives to locate, resonate, and grow seeds for futures that are quivering in suspension, waiting to be brought to life. Suely urges us to “occupy the factory of the unconscious” as a way of mending the separation between affects and the spirit. The idea, she says, is to decolonise desire,  synchronizing the power of life with the effects of the forces of the world on our bodies, accepting that under today’s neoliberal system, the basis of factory of the unconscious is precisely to bring about this separation.

In this podcast we talk to Suely Rolnik about micropolitics and macropolitics, about the common and the subjective. We talk about air and about the present, and about how difficult it has become to inspire and to conspire. We abandon the idea of the apocalypse but also that of paradise. We turn our attention to spiders, pausing to observe their strong and flexible threads, and we consider creating provisional spiderwebs to allow the emergence of other worlds. For this weaving, Suely borrows and tells us about Guarani terms such as ñe'é, which means word and also soul.

Conversation: Antonio Gagliano, Verónica Lahitte, Ricardo Cárdenas, Javiera Cádiz and Anna Ramos. Script and voice over: Verónica Lahitte. Sound production: Antonio Gagliano. Sound: RWM library music. Image: Xavier Demarets.
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