18/06/2018 46' 55''

Working simultaneously in various fields such as academia, social movements, and public policy, Emilio Santiago Muiño (b. Ferrol, 1984) studies and supports social processes involved in transitioning to ecological sustainability. His research is based on evidence of a growing energy shortage that will force Western societies to learn to reduce energy use in coming decades. This is by no means a gloomy scenario, but a historical window of opportunity to promote the reenchangment of everyday life, weakening the neoliberal consumer drive and making it posible to imagine a new culture base don values such as mutual care, life stability, and physical activity linked to a satisfying effort. In Muiño’s words, the idea is to “become poor, so as not to kill”. To make a transition based on desire rather than fear, in order to prevent the emergence of a “resource fascism” driven by competition, geopolitical advantage, and the plunder of increasingly scarce material reserves.

In this podcast we talk to Emilio Santiago Muiño about salad gardens in museums, social movements and public policies, about oil as a magical substance, about re-greening, ecofascism, acceleration, and degrowth, and about how an imaginary of more modest utopías may, in the long term, become a means of finding our way home.

Timeline
00:00 Reform and militarisation
03:47 Creating a salad garden in a museum
05:52 A tangential way in, for those who would otherwise never approach contemporary art
08:34 Libraries of things and plenty of Kropotkin
11:36 From social movements to public policies
16:29 Less epic, more effective: avoiding the Atlas complex
17:42 Lavapies centricity
18:32 Talking degrowth is not a turn on
19:52 Dilemmas and forms of seduction
22:43 Algerian gas in Spain: become poorer or kill
23:44 The discourses of impoverishment and redistribution are inextricably linked
24:58 Bakunin or Emma Goldman: I’d rather dance too
26:13 The greening of the island
27:28 The left turns Cuba into a colony of symbols
28:29 Lowering expectations
30:27 Ecofascism
32:56 Fascist responses to the ecological crisis
33:5 The accelerationist blind spot: preserving universal access to the Neolithic
36:34 Ecomodernism
39:34 Club of Rome vs. Chicago Boys
43:24A historical flickering: petrol as a magical substance
45:17 Imbalances between city and country
46:13 Things worth conserving

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